Guitar Refinishing
Guitar refinishing is one of the most exciting things we do at our shop. It is also the most frustrating and time consuming work that we do. Many a day RD has been heard crying out for mercy trying to remove the finish from some vintage piece that an old Hippy repairman has re-finished with some kind of THC resin. Sometime we have to start all over because the gold flake from the last ’59 Gold-top reissue Les Paul touch up just looks too good, and we have to match the factory’s so-so work. All in all though, when you restore or refinish an old or misused guitar back to it’s original look (or the aged equivalent), it gives you a sense of pride and accomplishment, as well as the gratitude of a client who can truly appreciate it.
There are two basic types of guitar finish, nitrocellulose lacquer (AKA: nitro or lacquer), and Polyurethane or one if its equivalents (AKA: poly). Lacquer offers a softer layer of protection, but allows the wood to “breathe” more, while poly has a harder glossier finish, but many players feel it “shells” the sound of the wood, dampening tone and sustain. Nitro was and continues to be used on Martin and Gibson guitars since about the 1930s and on Fenders up until the late 1960s (Custom Shop and Reissues excepted). Many vintage guitars (Guild and Gretsch among them) have lacquer finishes, but have since moved to poly. Most modern instruments have poly or one of its variations as a finish.
Technological advances have made poly cheaper, quicker and more environmentally friendly than lacquer. Also, new techniques and advancements have allowed guitar makers to spray very thin coats of poly, overcoming the “sound dampening” effect while offering the protection of a urethane. Taylor, Larrivee and Paul Reed Smith guitars all offer non-nitro finishes and one strum can tell you that big leaps have been made in respect to poly’s tonal response over the last decade. Poly remains the most difficult finish to touch up. Short of refinishing parts of or all of an instrument, polyurethane damage is next to impossible to get to look “as good as new”. Which finish is right for you is your own personal choice.
When we begin the refinishing process, the first stage is the sanding stage. Poly or nitro requires the removal of the old finish, and the sanding of the existing surface. Often on opaque finishes, we remove the finish down to the old sanding sealer coat and re-sand the sealer coat. On translucent finishes, we remove all the finish, sealer coat included, and sand the wood. Any flaws in the sanding process will stick out like a soar thumb, so this is the most important step. Next, the sealer coat is applied to the wood and allowed to dry. If we’re doing a candy or metallic finish, the undercoat of metallic paint is applied. This stuff gets everywhere!!! We have a separate spray room for spraying metallic. Then the color coat is applied and allowed to dry. We wet sand the color coat and apply the next layers of color if it’s a sunburst. The clear coat is then applied and the instrument is wet sanded and buffed out to high gloss.
What takes a few sentences on paper can take many weeks in the spray booth.
Drying time is essential, especially with lacquer. Wet sanding is done between every dried coat and is very time consuming. The guitar still hasn’t even been reassembled and set up! Getting factory finish is very difficult for even an experienced tech. If you want a pro look, get it done by a pro. Many people have come in with guitars that “Cousin Wade” was going to refinish for them, only to get their axe back looking like a Junior High wood shop project. Refinishing is time consuming and expensive because of the high degree of experience that is required of the technician. Very few of the techs in our shop are allowed to do these repairs. It requires years of learning and experience to pull it off, but once it’s done, you will see and understand what all the fuss is about.
Hi – what would you charge for just the clear coat job on a guitar body? (basic Ibanez RG body)
Thanks
Ben,
Clear coating a bolt on style guitar body is $250. Is there a signature you want coated over or just a new gloss coat??
How much would it be to refinish my Ibanez Prestige Rg2550Z to nitro?
Alex,
It should run about $650 to refinish the guitar in nitro if we have to remove the old poly finish, depending on what color you were looking for. What color are you considering?
Thanks for the reply Chris, I would like the finish to be natural.
You are right in regards to the original paint, it would have to be removed.
Thank you!
I purchased a Martin d-28 in 1958, it has a crack on the face of the guitar and it needs some repairs frets on the neck. How much would you charge to do something like this?
Very nice guitar. I would need to see it firsthand but look to spend about $185 on the top crack and fret work can run from $100-300, depending on what is going on with the guitar.
I have a ’61 signature LP Junior SG style with original finish. Unfortunately the prior owner decided to try and seal up the age checking in the finish with a top coat of urathane or some other un-compatable finish. This top coat caused “orange peeling” in some area’s and also the guitar feels a bit sticky in places. I don’t know what to do with it. I tryed removing the “tackyness” with some chemical and had success of sorts becuase the original red stain remained in the wood. I hate to ruin the value of this guitar. Should I just leave it the way it is?? or remove the top coat(leaving the original stain)? If I bring it down to the stain should I have a Nitro top coat applied or just leave it loking faded?? Please advise with return email. .Paul
Paul,
I would recommend having the gummy finish removed with perhaps some sanding and buffing. You can really go wrong trying to remove paint on a vintage guitar with any kind of chemical or stripper. If you still have most of the original finish and we can save it mostly by doing non-invasive repair work, I would stick with that. If there is lots of finish missing or if it is impossible to remove the overcoats, you may want to consider refinishing and restoring the piece. Most of the time though we can save them, as long as most of the finish is intact.
I have a Martin D28 I bought used. I would like to have its finish restored to new. How much would that run?
Bill,
Refinishing a Martin does require the guitar to be dis-assembled to be properly refinished. The neck and body on a Martin are finished separately so as to accommodate any repair that may need to be done to the neck joint. The bridge and pickguard must be removed as well. Total cost for this procedure is $850 plus materials (that usually runs around $25). If the guitar is more than a few years old, it may also require the guitar be refretted. We usually discount that option quite a bit so that it only adds $225 onto the cost of the repair (usually it is $300 to refret a D28). Hope that answers all your questions!
Hello I was wondering how much it would cost to refinish a 1961 re-issue sg. The finish I want would be a natural or turquoise like on an sgx. Thanks a lot!
-Bobby
Should be about $650 plus material. the turquoise paint may cost about $45 since it is a custom color.
Hi, i was wondering if you could do a paint job on a guitar, and if you dooo, how much?
its a strat.
We do a ton of refinishing. It is usually more cost effective to buy a new body if you are just looking to change the color of your existing guitar, but if you have something vintage or super valuable, refinishing it is the way to go. Refinishing a strat body usually runs about $525, depending on color and paint type.
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I just bought an old LEFTY ’57 Fender Strat neck (all maple) on E-Bay. and it needs three things done:
A refret job, the truss-rod nut replaced with an original “cross” type nut, and: refinihsed in nitro lacquer.
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I need a LEFTY Alder Strat body made for the neck, that will be painted in a 2=tone sunburst sunburst (Lacquer) finish.
Can you help me out??
Thanks,
John
(949) 202-9968
Sorry, John I think you may have slipped through the cracks and I didn’t get this message. To replace the truss rod and refret a vintage neck with refinishing would run you about $900. If we make you a Strat body by hand and finish it in two tone nitro, look to spend about $1000. If we just buy a body from Allparts or MusicCraft, it would only run you around $800.
HI,
I have a 62 Fender Jazzmaster – it is mostly down to bare wood except in a few small places where you can see someone painted it. What would it cost to get it looking like jazzmaster again?
Teresa
Teresa,
Refinishing a bolt on body like that starts at about $500. It depends on what color you want the guitar refinished to. Many of those were sunbursts, but they also came in lots of custom colors. Any idea about what color you would be interested in??
I have a 1963 Gibson Es345. It has been refinished to a wine red. It was originally cherry. It could also use new binding on the guita and neck. Can you give an estimated cost?
Refinishing a double bound guitar with rebinding it (that would perhaps require the neck to be refretted, I would need to see it first) should run you about $1450 plus materials (should be around $50). We may be able to save the binding though, especially if we are doing a full refinish. Saving the binding would best to help maintain originality. Would you want it OEM or would you like it slightly aged or really aged??
What if I want a replacement body with no paint to be painted from scratch? That should be less because you wont have to strip it down right? I was wondering what it would cost to paint a tele body that new copper burst color on the mim tele’s and if you could even do that?
It may be cheaper for you to just buy the copper burst tele. It would be cheaper as far as labor goes to not have to strip a body, but to do a metallic with a bust like copper or silver burst would run $750 plus the paint (about $45 for metallic).
Hi, I have a Martin 000-28EC in great shape except that the nitro finish on the neck has peeled mostly off. It started as a bubble over a dimple made by a capo and once the bubble popped open, the finish continue to flake off (some intentionally because it was difficult to play with sharp nitro pieces. The headstock is OK as is the heel of the next, but from the nut to about the 12th fret, the neck now has a satin finish (actually easier for sliding). What would I expect to pay for a refinish of the neck — no stain, just nitro? Thanks!
Dave,
The problem with having to refinish the neck on any Martin is that the neck really needs to be removed from the body to do it properly. When the guitar is assembled, the neck and body are refinished separately, so to do it right, we have to reverse the process. Removing, refinishing and reinstalling the neck on any Martin would run $525 plus materials (about $15). we can refinish it in gloss nitro or a satin sheen nitro, what ever you like!
Hi, I’m considering having my Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster HSS Electric Guitar refinished to a powder blue, do you know how much that would run? Thanks
Gabe,
It is pretty expensive to do a refin on an American Deluxe. The finish on that guitar is very hard and won’t come off with a stripping agent. It has to be removed by hand with a heat gun and orbital sander. Once the finish is off, we can do the refin in either poly or nitro. Cost for this usually runs around $625-650 plus materials (usually around $45). You may be better off buying an aftermarket body from Warmoth, Allparts or WD.
I was just curious how much it would cost to get my fender strat body refinished gold or candy apple red
Candy Apples and metallics are the most expensive refins we do. If your existing guitar has a polyurethane finish that needs to be removed, look to spend about $700 for metallic refin and $800 for a candy refin plus paint (usually about $45)
Hello, can you tell me how much it would be to have an epiphone EDS1275 refinished to matte black? Thanks
Hello, I was wondering how much it would cost to get a Fender Blacktop Stratocaster HH colored graffiti yellow?
The guitar would need to be stripped before refinishing. Getting the paint off of those guitars is time consuming. The stripping and refinishing would run about $625 and the material would run about $45-55.
Hello, I want to get an american standard tele but I really want a nice nitro finish on it. If I got one of the new ones with the thinner undercoat, how much would it cost to have it redone with a black nitro finish?
Should run you about $525 to have the guitar refinished in black nitrocellulose lacquer
Hi, Chris,
I want to ship an ’83 American Tele to you for some finish touch-up (someone applied house paint in a few areas to cover up some blemishes) and fret work with set-up.
Do you require a deposit? And what are your payment policies once work is completed?
Patrick
Cincinnati
Patrick,
No problem. We do not require a deposit when the value of the instrument exceeds the value of the repair (as in this case). Touch up work usually runs between $100-200 depending on location, severity and color. A fret level and set up usually runs about $95-110 depending on what is going on with the guitar and what kind of fretboard you have. We will call you on completion of the work and get a credit card number from you before shipping, or you can send us a check, we can let it clear and then we ship the guitar. We also can do PayPal.
Hi! I have a Guild JF6512-BL. I think it is 10-11 years old. Do you know if it is a poly or lacquer finish? I want to sell it, but it has a few minor dings. Afraid buyers will pick it apart if it’s not near perfect. Do you think it’s worth messing with or just sell as is?
I am 99% sure that it is lacquer. That is what Guild was using at the time, but without having it in my hands, I can’t be 100%. Stranger things have happened. As long as the bangs and dings are minor. i would say call it normal playing wear and sell as is. If they are extreem blemishes, you may want to consider some touch up, it would make the guitar a little easier to sell.
I have a 1978 Suzuki 3 S copy of a Martin D35 tri-back Dreadnaut. It was perfect but the case hinge staples wore thru the glue on barriers inside the case. I picked us wear the size of q tip thru the finish and a coule of scratches. Should I repair it or would the cost be worth more than the guitar is worth> Would it require a total re-finish or spot only repair? The marks are on the curvilinear side between the flat front and flat back. Can you estimate repair cost for me please?
We could do some minor drop fill and some wet sanding to make that better. Usually that runs around $125-150. If you want it perfect or if the damage is severe, refinishing it is the only real way to go, especially if the finish is a polyurethane (which I am 99% sure it is).
I’ve got an old baritone ukelele, manufactured sometime in the 60′s. It’s more of a family heirloom than a collector’s item, I don’t think it’s too valuable. It’s got quite a few scratches and a crack on the back. I know this is vague, but what would you estimate a repair/refinish would be on this piece?
The clear coat is chipping off of my $4700 zakk wylde bullseye les paul custom. warranty does not cover finish. it is a 2011 model and the clear cost is already flaking off and exposing the bare wood. could you fix this and how much $$$.Thanks jim
Casey,
Like you said we would really need to look at it, but I would imagine to fix the crack and do some minor touch up, restring and clean it up, you would be looking at around $200. I know it is probably worth more than the piece to have it fixed, but I understand the sentimental attachment.
Hi Chris,
Thank You for the extremely informative page. I have a Washburn HB35 that I am currently considering changing from the stock Washburn “Wine Red” to a Gibson style “Pelham Blue”, Such as that found on a Gibson DG335. I don’t have any particular time frame in mind. Please advise when you get a spare moment. Thank You for your time.
Chris,
My apologies as in that last post regarding the potential refinishing of the Washurn HB35 I had failed to mention what I advice I was inquiring about. I was hoping you could advise on cost to re-finish both the body and the neck. Thank You!!
Best Regards,
Chuck
Jim,
Got to take a look at it. If the finish is just flaking and we can save it through some respray and amalgamation, it should be around $300-400. If we need to pull back the paint and do touch ups to the bulls eye and then re-coat, look to spend around $800.
Probably more expensive than the guitar’s value, but removing the old finish, refinishing in a Pelham Blue on a multi-bound body like that would run you around $950!
how much would it cost to take a gibson sg classic, and re-finish it in a heritage cherry sparkle sunburst?
Nick,
Sorry but we don’t do sparkle anymore, it is just too messy. We can do a metallic or a candy burst. Look to spend about $850-900
Hi: I purchased a new Les Paul Studio. I would like to remove the finish from the back of the neck. No binding. Would you use a stripper or sanding method. What would be the cost for you to do it? Thanks for all the great advice! Good thread!!